New Power Suggestion - Invert Powers

[mattmonyo]

I thought I should re-visit the forums I never really became apart of, and no better way to do that than with a suggestion. So here goes:

Invert Power(s) would change the direction of your powers; rows to columns, and columns to rows. I would put the powers' rarity on par with switcheroo, seeing that it's a pretty useful in that you can manipulate your own powers.

[OncoByte]

That would certainly be useful in many situations.

[MEMBER MEMBER]

Balance question: would this be squadron wide or would it only apply to the piece on which it was activated?

Squadron wide I dislike, but this idea has been hashed out for single pieces before, and I love it.

One use right?

[mattmonyo]

One use per piece, per power.

[Handi]

I see this power being very useful in many cases, but also quite useless in others.

My question is: how should it affect radial powers?
It could either ignore them or (with an enhanced interface that many dislike), you'd be able to convert any R/C/R to any other R/C/R.

Other than that, I'd say the power is quite decent. As a combo-dependent power, it ranks fairly high since it can be used efficiently with any R/C/R power and there's a lot of them.

[mattmonyo]

I see this power being very useful in many cases, but also quite useless in others.

My question is: how should it affect radial powers?
It could either ignore them or (with an enhanced interface that many dislike), you'd be able to convert any R/C/R to any other R/C/R.

I think it should ignore them. It'd be too powerful if you could just choose any power you want. I like comparing this with the "2X" power, just a power influencer.

[driven2sin]

turn radials into a pentagram...

[Polymorph]

Turn radials into radials that are on its side.

[l0de]

This is a really neat idea.

My suggestion: Turn radials into DIAGONALS, not across the whole board, but two squares on the corner of each normal radius, and include the casting piece. (You still effect 9 total squares, that way swap still works, etc). This would be the only way to get a diagonal.

[OncoByte]

Clevah!

What does a GQ+DiagRadial do?

[l0de]

Longer diagonal, 4 extra squares in each direction. (giving it the 16 extra squares you would get from a GQ radius.

[OncoByte]

Longer diagonal, 4 extra squares in each direction. (giving it the 16 extra squares you would get from a GQ radius.

Except you won't actually see those extra squares in practice.

Here's some alternatives.
#1 - extra diagonal tiles (up to 4 in each direction)
#2 - hit the diagonally branching tiles
#3 - same as 1xGQ and Radial
#4 some row and column tiles (and overlaid diagonal pattern shifted 45 degrees)

- All have a potential for up to 16 extra tiles.

[bizpimp]

Dig the Diagattack concept. Apparently throwing GrowQuadradius into the equation makes it a bit messy. I like the looks of the top model. Those extra tiles will show up as the torus moves throughout the arena, won't they? Alternative #2 is pretty cool, too, I suppose.

[Mammalman]

there's no really thematic way to invert the radial, even before GQ makes things worse...that's the biggest reason i don't love this idea. switching rows to columns is kinda cool but not worth a power that doesn't have a sensible extension to radials imho. plus this would be pretty much the worst 'meta' power, i.e. powers that don't do anything except in combo with others (i.e. worse than 2x, GQ, teach/learn/etc.)

[l0de]

A few points:

1. While it's certainly meta, it's a very compelling power. I think a lot of games really come down to who has the column powers and who doesn't. There are a lot of circumstances where this power would be stronger than 2x. Invis sweeping with a row power, only to flip the script when he grabs an orb on your column.

2. Don't forget with the diagattack power that your GQ piece might be in the far corner, and could actually see some use out of several extra squares. I think the other variations there are just too damn hard to visualize.

I agree with mammalman that thematically, diagattack doesn't exactly make sense. It's exactly the kind of thing jimmi would never go for. (if jimmi starts going for stuff again in the future)

How about this then, when you invert the radial, you create a singularity and all the pieces in that radial are sucked into it and destroyed. The singularity destroys the casting piece, and next turn (as in the other player's turn, not one turn later) any other pieces in the 8 squares around the center are sucked in and destroyed as well. The singularity remains on the board unless refurbed. GQ singularities suck closer at one square per turn.

That way you could relocate onto a singularity-radius and not get instakilled, but you would have to move out of the radius or die. Relocating\scrambling onto a singularity would kill you.

A little intricate, but still neat. Eases the pain of being meta a bit when you can turn any shitty radial into a static kamikaze that has a huge impact on the terrain.